Day 41

November 15, 2011
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Occupy Portland Liaison Team resigns. Letter to the Mayor available here.

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  1. Chuck on November 15, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Rock and sticks to throw, fire bombs, wearing gas masks, yelling and screaming, mob-mentality, blocking emergency vehicle access, public nuisance, wasting over one million dollars of public money… That’s Occupy.

    Staning still, looking tough, holding batons, arresting the unruly and dragging knuckleheads from a stampeeding crowd… That’s the Police

    Time to pack it in kids… School has started.

    • jEEPY on November 15, 2011 at 4:08 pm

      Time for the Portland Business Alliance to go back to kindegarten and learn that candy costs money. PAY YOUR OWN DAMN POLICE BILL, PBA! GROW THE HELL UP AND STOP USING TAXPAYER MONEY AS YOUR OWN LITTLE WELFARE CHECK!!!!!!!

  2. David on November 15, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Well, obviously Chuck wasn’t there. I was, that’s why I know his description is fictional.

    THANK YOU for this message. It sums up how I feel.

  3. Dave on November 15, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    I think it’s OccupyPDX that owes a huge apology to the 99% of Portland. To the tune of $1M, 70 truckloads of filth, and two trashed parks.

    You’re quite full of yourselves.

    • occupypdxer on November 15, 2011 at 3:19 pm

      We’re sorry 99%. We weren’t able to solve the all of the world’s problems in 39 days.

    • Steve on November 15, 2011 at 3:22 pm

      Well said.
      Personally, I think we should start harvesting and selling the vital organs of Occupiers to cover the cost.
      But, I still agree w/ you.

    • jEEPY on November 15, 2011 at 4:06 pm

      Actually, when the Portland Business Alliance tells the police to crack down on protesters and then expects TAXPAYER WELFARE to pay for their own damn police bill, the anger and POLICE BILL need to be sent TO THE DAMNED PORTLAND BUSINESS ALLIANCE AND THE BANKS INVESTED IN THEM. IT’S TIME TO OWN THE TRUTH THAT THE PBA CALLED THE SHOTS AND IS PASSING THE BILL ON TO TAXPAYERS. PAY YOUR OWN DAMN BILLS, PBA!!!!!!

    • Blare on November 15, 2011 at 5:09 pm

      That’s less than 2 bucks per Portland resident.

      An audit of the Fed, however, revealed $16 TRILLION in secret bailout money to the TBTF banks.

      Your share for that bailout, Steve, is over $51,000.

      And I bet your share of the annual trashings of Waterfront Park each summer (usually turns into a huge smelly swamp) really bother you, eh?

      I didn’t think so.

  4. Steve on November 15, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Ha Ha Ha.

    What a joke. If you want to see “brutality”, just come and try to Occupy the park by my house (in L.O.).
    I guarantee you that you won’t be able to get on the phone fast enough to beg the police to come intervene.

    • occupypdxer on November 15, 2011 at 3:18 pm

      You are a lovely human being. I hope you go far in life.

      • Steve on November 15, 2011 at 3:27 pm

        Thanks.

        I already am. And, I already have. Too bad you Occupiers are destin for the gutter.

    • Chuck on November 15, 2011 at 3:39 pm

      No dung! This wouldn’t happen outside the city run by Mr nadless. Occupy is a manufactured excuse for children to mob and demand what they’ve neither earned or deserve. Steve, I’d by you a beer!

  5. PDXGoBlazers on November 15, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Let’s face it. Occupy no longer stands for what it should be. Now it’s just a tool of the anarchist activists for their own personal agenda.

    • PDXGoBlazers on November 15, 2011 at 3:34 pm

      The colors of this site are red and black, the color pair most symbolically used by anarchist idealists.

  6. Citizen Alan on November 15, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Occupy, now clearly a euphemism for “annex” has been gingerly put down by “The Man”, and yet these spoiled, narcissistic, crypto, klepto and crap-toe revolutionary wannabees are trying to play the victim card. What limitless hubris!
    The most delicious irony in all of this, of course, is that when you read through all the pro-Occupy drivel-posts on this site, and where you can find a concrete and specific expression of personal dissatisfaction with something wrong about our current society, the real root causes relate to TOO MUCH Government, TOO MANY Laws and Regulations, taxes that are TOO HIGH and TOO MUCH Crony Capitalism as is being practiced today by the Obama Administration (TARP, Solyndra, Siga…). In other words, if these young’ins truly cared about fixing these problems, they’d start telling off their Marxist friends and college professors and would join the TEA Party!

    • Chuck on November 15, 2011 at 3:41 pm

      Crap, I’m gonna go broke, now I gotta buy Steve and Citizen Alan a beer!

    • PDXGoBlazers on November 15, 2011 at 3:59 pm

      Pshhh, the reason we have corporate lobbying and artificial monopolies / oligopolies is a result of lack of restrictions on business strategy. We need to get back to the cornerstones of innovation and price competition as the basis of supply and demand rather than allowing BS tactics that impede bettering products and services at lower cost. Tea Party is in the wrong direction.

      • Indie on November 15, 2011 at 5:50 pm

        Your have no basis, facts or theory as to you argument that more regulation would spur innovation and ‘price competition’ (whatever that means)

        What impedes bedsides regulations and taxes?

  7. Anonymous on November 15, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    This does very little to make amends for the liasons betrayal. How convenient that you want to talk about police brutality now, a bunch of white college students who are blind to the brutality that happens to those less privileged than them. This kind of treatment is handed out every single day to the homeless, to people of color, to the working poor. There were people from day 1 who said all of these things, and they were ignored. They were told that the police are the 99%. They were told that the city was a good working partner. This self appointed leadership should be roundly rejected. You’re a bunch of willing stooges. The fact that you’re still asking to find ways to work with the city is proof enough of that. GTFO!

  8. Lance Ortiz on November 15, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    I’m glad that occupypdx speaks for the 99%…since the 99% includes our mayor, every police officer, everyone who lives downtown….if the 99% actually stood up for something, it wou;d be easy to change this country…but reality is that the 99% is more like this country’s 6 or 7%

  9. PDXGoBlazers on November 15, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Here is the REAL angle footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NPHwUgCvvGI#!
    If you compare this with Justin’s interview, you get two VERY different stories. His description in his interview sounds like a bad acid trip version of what you actually see (with coinciding events between both)

    • Hope on November 15, 2011 at 4:15 pm

      And if you compare the video with what Justin said last night at the GA it’s downright crazy. Occupy needs to remove people like Justin instead of holding him up as an example of what Occupy is all about.

  10. Hope on November 15, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Remember last night when you put this guy behind the bullhorn at the GA? You got the crowd riled up with claims of police brutality, and now we find out that didn’t happen. It makes Occupy look bad, and it makes those of us who support Occupy look bad.

    Occupy denied that the stolen bikes last week were in the camps, but that’s where they were recovered.

    Occupy denied that the guy who tried to burn down a building using a molotov cocktail returned to the camps, but that’s where he was arrested later in the day.

    Occupy swore at the meeting last night that this clown had been beaten by the police. But the video shows otherwise.

    I support the message of Occupy, but the movement has been taken over by people who just want to fight, and they don’t even care what they fight for.

    Occupy Portland desperately needs to start over with new leaders and new focus. You’ve got to root out people like this guy. He is not part of the movement. And you’ve got to stop lying. This clown was not beaten by the police.

    It’s embarrassing that you want the mayor to apologize for a police beating that didn’t happen. This isn’t high school drama class. Please hold yourselves up to the standard you demand from others.

  11. msfreeh on November 15, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    TO OWS/OP : a species that hires bodyguards to protect them looses the ability to protect itself and is doomed to extinction

    If your teachers had not been so busy dumbing you down as
    kids they would have assigned two books for book reports.
    Both books look at how the FBI works with State, Local and County police protect those of wealth and privilege. The taxpayer funded FBI does this by ” inviting local police” to train at the FBI Academy.
    The 2 books are:
    1. PROTECTORS OF PRIVILEGE by Richard Donner
    http://www.niu.edu/~rfeurer/labor/Frank%20Donner%20brief.pdf
    2. ABOVE THE LAW by Bud Schultz see
    http://epic.org/epic/board/burnham/

    for the uneducated and the uneducable

    high school dropout can’t find work so he joins the Marines to Semper Fi
    and collect some money.
    High school dropout is sent to Paris Island to be all he can be. He is trained to kill women and children and a occasional freedom fighter trying to protect his wife from being raped by Mr Semper Fi.
    High school dropout ships out to invade Iraq for USEmpire and US oil companies.
    American oil companies are struggling with the problem of Peak Oil.
    Peak oil means we no longer have a infinite supply of oil.Maybe you saw the documentary film END OF SUBURBIA see
    http://www.endofsuburbia.com/previews.htm

    high school drop out didn’t because his high school teachers were too busy DUMBING him down
    see
    http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/bookstore/dumbdnblum1.htm

    High School dropout manages to kill a couple hundred women and children while throwing in a occasional rape. Mr Sempi Fi has now been transformed into Mr serial killer.
    Mr high school dropout/serial killer now begins to experience extreme depression from his actions. Mental Wealth workers call it Post Traumatic
    Stress Syndrome. But the only people who experience traumatic stress in Iraq are the Iraqi women being raped by Semper Fi’s before they shot and killed them.
    Good thing serial killer/high school dropout has never read the research
    of Ian Stevenson MD whose groundbreaking study of 3,000 children who remember previous lives provides the science for the existence of reincarnation. see
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1542356/Professor-Ian-Stevenson.html

    What this means for high school dropout is that he will be coming back
    again for another life . Of course so will the people he murdered , so for practical purposes he has another couple hundred lives he has to live getting “wacked” by the life forms he semper fi’d.

    The difference this time is the raped and murdered have had some time to ponder while they wait for him to pass over, how they will “do” Mr Semper Fi- the high school drop out serial killer.

    Mr high school dropout comes back from Iraq out of work unless he re-enlists. There are not to many job openings for serial killers until he lands a job working with his be all you can be buddies at the local police department or the FBI.

  12. George Keenan on November 15, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    I lived through the late 60′s early 70′s demonstrations and saw cops in action. You don’t have a clue if you think the Portland Police were behaving badly. They were like boy scouts compared to then. I think for a bunch of guys who were dealing with people disobeying the law, jeering them, showing no respect and ignoring all directions, behave admirably well after having lack of sleep and standing for that long a duration. One more comment…. if you really want to change the US then get organized, develop a coherent platform, and start putting together your own candidates…. You are not going to change the world by erecting a tent.

  13. jEEPY on November 15, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    THAT’S RIGHT. THE PORTLAND BUSINESS ALLIANCE SEES NO PROBLEM IN AMASSING A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO DO THEIR OWN BIDDING. WHEN WILL THE PBA PAY THEIR OWN BILLS?????? WE THE PEOPLE DID NOT ELECT THE DOUCHEBAGS OF THE PBA TO TELL THE POLICE WHAT TO DO AND WHEN. TIME FOR THE PORTLAND BUSINESS ALLIANCE TO LEARN TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN DAMN CANDY.

  14. jEEPY on November 15, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    The mayor is also Owned by the Portland Business Alliance – what a joke. PORTLAND BUSINESS ALLIANCE: PAY UP!!! YOU OWE THE POLICE ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS TO DO YOUR SECRET BIDDING! WHAT? PASSING IT OFF ON THE TAXPAYERS? i WOULD THINK PEOPLE WOULD WISE UP TO THAT CRAAAAPPPPPP.

  15. Jackie on November 15, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    81-year-old Jack Mongeon speaks about his arrest at Occupy Portland’s eviction:

    http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2011/11/81-year-old_jack_mongeon_speak.html

  16. The Real 99% Joe on November 15, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    The real 99% do not appreciate our tax money that you have wasted. It’s only a matter of time before the real 99% have had enough of your crap and insist on our police department to enforce our laws.

  17. Jim on November 15, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    I must admit that I am somewhat disheartened by the discussion. I tend to agree with the general sentiment that we need to change. What I struggle with is that no one in the occupy movement – anywhere – has taken the time to develop a coherent message. Of any kind. If that is the purpose of the cause, then we have already lost.

    I own a small business in the NW industrial district. Most of the homeless that populate this neighborhood moved downtown. They are for the most part people who have lived on the street for long periods of time, been in and out of shelters and have no interest in joining mainstream society. The conditions that I saw in the occupied parks mirror the conditions that they live in every day. Is this what the movement is striving for?

    As a business owner, I employ people, pay taxes and follow the rules. We rarely, if ever, get support from the City. If anything, the City looks at us as an ATM – Portland is not a business friendly place, and most businesses our size struggle to get by. We are hand to mouth. I am no big fan of Mayor Creepy (we seem to like electing mayors who like underaged sexual liaisons), but in this case the city and the police acted appropriately and deserve a great deal of credit for the way they handled the things.

    Regarding charges of police brutality, stop it. There is are video, audio and eyewitness accounts. If anything, what I saw was people trying to goad the police into bashing them in order to create an incident. Whether we like it or not, Portland has a class of professional protesters/demonstrators whose sole purpose seems to be finding a cause – any cause. What this group really needs to do is get their gear on and go march around East Portland & campaign for social justice. Not many white people out there, even fewer college educated people. This group, more than anyone, needs city services and they are not getting them.

  18. Craig on November 15, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    You losers have costs us working folks almost a MILLION Dollas! Get a job, get off drugs, grow the fuck up and get out of our town. Go occupy the pacific Ocean as see how you like that. You should be disposed of with the trash and shit you left behind Scumbags!

  19. Devan on November 15, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    I am with you. I stood with you and stand with you because it is clear to me that we are supposed to have a right, guaranteed us by the 1st Amendment, to peaceably assemble and petition our government for a redress of grievances. Assembling and petitioning take time to develop and are not pretty. Ultimately, I had to personally find out if we actually do have that right and I have come to the conclusion, with the help of a militarized police force, that we no longer do. The First and Fourth Amendments found in the Bill of Rights are not being upheld by the corporate police state we currently find ourselves in. I do take some personal responsibility for not doing more regarding the sanitation and safety issues which were/are of public concern but feel those issues were used as an excuse by the corporate elite to shut down a a peaceful movement they felt threatened by. Thank you for standing strong in front of the cameras and reading this statement. I hold you in high regard.

    • Citizen Alan on November 15, 2011 at 6:20 pm

      Devan,
      Kindly identify these “corporate elite” to which you and your pals keep vaguely alluding to. Who -exactly-, and by name are you referring to? And exactly how did these individuals manage to issue orders to the Police?
      I’m keen to learn these secrets as I am hoping to form a corporation soon and the ability to control the local metropolitan police force might come in handy some day.

      • Ben on November 15, 2011 at 6:26 pm

        Citizen Alan, all you have to do as a cooperation to control a police force is to donate generously to the campaigns of politicians who control control them.

      • Devan on November 15, 2011 at 7:20 pm

        I think you will find the answers you are looking for here: http://alternative-x.com/store/Howard%20Zinn%20-%20A%20People%27s%20History%20of%20the%20United%20States,%201492-Present.pdf

        The individuals currently comprising the corporate elite can be found by you or anyone else by looking up the board of directors of the major American banking institutions, oil companies, weapons manufacturers, insurance companies, media conglomerates, pharmaceutical companies, etc.

        The above link I have referred you to will explain how, among other things, they influence and control our country by funding the political campaigns of both the Democratic and Republican parties. We are supposed to have a Capitalist economic system, not a Capitalist form of government. That is Corporate tyranny.

        I answer your question for you Alan, but mostly for anyone else who may be interested in finding out the “secrets”.

    • Mccoy on November 15, 2011 at 9:30 pm

      The corporate elite do not live in Portland, I dont think they really care what you are doing

  20. DatabaseDave on November 15, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    How about an apology from KGW for giving way too much coverage to these sociOPaths?

    What about improving coverage of the businesses that have been
    harmed by these sociOPaths?

    How about some decent coverage of the recent general election?  KGW did a terrible job of covering the issues and of the honorable citizens who expressed their opinions by voting.  

    You remember voting, right KGW?  It’s what citizens of our republic do to speak up and effect change.

    Nothing in the Bill of Rights says you have to provide pinheads a a stage on which to perform.

  21. HardWorker on November 15, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Thanks for ruining the parks!!

    Steve well said.. For the last 39 days while the bums filled our parks trying to figure out what they still never figured out, we were all working hard and now our tax dollars goes to fix what they trashed!!

    Thanks for embarrasing Portland you filthy occupiers!

  22. luis on November 15, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    must read! super unacceptable and downright infuriating information about the recent first audit of the federal reserve and its secret $16 trillion dollars!!

    https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=219155504823340&id=11503109&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpermalink.php

  23. Dave on November 15, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    @Devan,

    The corporate elite shut down the movement? Is it over then? Are you throwing in the towel?

    In looking at the Occupy Wiki calendar, On Nov 17th, you’ll be assembling at the Steel Bridge. Also a separate ‘call to action’ march and assembly.

    On Nov 19th, Occupy will assemble at Ron Russell Middle School. Also on the 19th, Occupy will assemble and march from Waterfront park.

    I count (6) separate assemblies/marches in just the next week alone. Hardly seems you’ve had your 1st amendments rights stripped from you and Occupy will continue to use them.

    What I see was stripped from Occupy, nationwide, was the misguided notion that they could squat indefinitely wherever and whenever they wanted. I don’t see that as a 1st amendment ‘right’.

    My guess is that if you keep marching and stay on pathways, you’ll not get beat-downs from the cops and they’ll even try to keep you and us both safe while you peacefully assemble to do it.

    The squatters rights argument is BS to me and you’ll not have my support, sympathies or solidarity so long as that attitude is prevalent.

    • Devan on November 15, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      Dave, thank you, you are correct in one regard…Occupy Portland is not “shut down”, merely regrouping. As for the other, I do not see times or curfews in the United States Constitution regarding peaceably assembling. While drafting the Constitution, I doubt they intended us to draft a petition for a redress of grievances while marching down the street.

      • Dave on November 15, 2011 at 11:53 pm

        Devan,

        To me, the difference between 1st amendment assembly/petition and squatting is pretty easy to make. It’s like theater vs porn, you easy know the difference when you see it. OccupyPDX jumped the shark to squatting- not assembly and petition to the GOVERNMENT (not WallStreet)for redress of grievances.

        • Devan on November 16, 2011 at 1:09 am

          I think then it is a double feature…one “theater” and one “porn” (although I deplore your analogy) because many of the people at the camp have homes to stay in if they wished. That’s one problem with your argument. Also, many of the “homeless” in camp were actively involved in the assembly. Furthermore, it is a slow, difficult process to find common ground between the different ideologies…it takes time. The petition will hopefully evolve out of this process, possibly culminating in a national assembly with delegates from the various occupations (I’ve heard word it will be taking place in Philly but uncertain of this). Regardless, I see your points. Personally, in my mind, our government is controlled by Wall Street, they are one and the same. Wonderfully, we can disagree. By the way, these are my own personal thoughts and in no way are meant to represent Occupy Portland as a whole. Please feel free to have the last word as I respect the difference in opinion. You bring up some important points.

  24. Rachel on November 15, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    So now this site is devoted to police brutality? If you interface with police, they treat you like crap… I have zero understanding why you’re surprised… Let’s discuss tomorrow morning how astonishing it is the sun came up…

    Can we get some front page action on what/how/where to occupy??

    • Chuck on November 15, 2011 at 10:31 pm

      Rachel – perfectly eloquent!

  25. satori on November 15, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Screaming victim mentality on display here. Not inspiring confidence. Also sounds like there is score keeping going on, again, not inspiring confidence. He did this, now we are doing that, but if he says he is sorry, then we will do this. You DO know that Adams publicly refused to apologize to the general public (which would include the people who voted for him) for allowing the camp to stay and incurring all the extra costs. With this in mind, NO WAY is he going to apologize to OP. What’s the reward? You’ll be nice to him?

  26. Chuck on November 16, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Read the scarf your disgracing!!!
    NO PITY!!!!!!!!
    Go home to your parents and cry about it!

  27. jordan on November 16, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Loved last night when the police came into a place of worship with guns..That was a bit much..lady who runs the church asked them to leave..Wow police a church…A BIT MUCH……….you are welcome into churches but please do not come in with force and guns……….BAD PR….

    • Chuck on November 16, 2011 at 9:42 am

      Police carry guns as do may citizens who possess a concealed firearmrs permit… Was anyone asked to leave at gunpoint?? Was anyone shot by the police?? The presence of police is simply safety – in this world you never know when some nut-case might decide to get violent and mob groups like occupy fest that sort of behavior so be thankful.

    • satori on November 16, 2011 at 1:13 pm

      A different perspective…

      There are many,many people who are very angry at the movement. Many of those people have posted the most vile and threatening commentary on various platforms. Many of those people have guns.

      Perhaps the police are trying to protect you….

  28. john on November 16, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    I arrived at Chapman and Lonsdale Parks late in the morning on Monday the 14th. I stood at 3rd and Main with my sign and protested alone for most of the day while city employees filled trucks and dumpsters with the remains of the occupation and a small army of police stood outside the fences. I never camped in the parks but the occupation was inspirational to me. I came every weekend and marched and protested, washed dishes, helped load dumpsters with trash, smoked cigarettes rolled by Nick@Night and ate my share of the endless food flowing from the kitchen. I loved sitting at the crossroads of Chapman playing my guitar, listening to others making music, and talking to different people, but I could see that the parks were not designed to facilitate what was happening.
    That evening I went to the GA in Pioneer Square where I found a crowd larger than I had expected. All the core occupiers were there along with many families, with children, that wanted to see the changes that the movement embraces. Everything went smoothly until certain people, not following GA protocol, demanded to have their say. The facilitators eventually gave in and let them have their say. It got ugly. Not that I’m the virgin Mary, but the language got foul and one guy with a flag on a long pole even insulted the crowd. As the crowd started to thin a little, I wondered how many might have been alienated and hoped people could get past this moment.
    On Tuesday afternoon, I wandered into Pioneer Square to find a very informal GA. People shared ideas—it was a relaxed scene. I joined a march with probably about 100 people and just about as many police, keeping us out of the streets. We marched to the US Bank building and went inside. I thought we were going into a bank and thought “uh-oh.” I didn’t know it was a small mall with shops. One shop owner quickly closed his doors in fear of the crowd. This illustrated his perception of what we were all about. I wondered how many other people shared his misinformed fear. We marched through the mall chanting our slogans. The police remained outside and were there to meet us as we exited. We marched on with the police keeping us on the sidewalks and making sure we safely crossed intersections when the traffic lights changed. A few protesters demonstrated their animosity of the police, taunting them. The police remained calm and refused to be baited. I don’t really know for sure but it seems that there wasn’t a definite route we were taking through the streets. The police didn’t seem to know where we wanted to go next, making their job more difficult. I hoped this was not the intention of those that seemed to be leading us. At one point we came to a standstill, the police surrounded us. Down the street, a group of police in riot gear were marching in formation toward us. They looked like storm troopers from the Empire Strikes Back. It was very confrontational. If I had had children or my 88-year-old father with me, I would have left the march at that point, fearing for their safety. I am not protesting to fight with police, or to shove my ideas down someone’s throat. I am protesting to draw attention to the social, political, economic injustices we’d like to see changed. The standstill ended without incident, we marched on peacefully to City Hall where we chanted and danced and then dispersed.
    I don’t live in Portland, but it seems to be one of the most tolerant cities I’ve ever visited. The people, including the homeless, are friendly to me. I feel safe walking the streets late at night. In some places, the police are looking for reasons to hassle people, but I don’t get that feeling in Portland. They seem to look the other way when I jay walk, which could be a reason to be hassled and searched in many other places. The city is full of beautiful parks, public restrooms, and I love all the bubbling water fountains everywhere. Michael Moore said we had the largest occupation in the county when he visited us.
    We have to put behind us all the bad blood that the occupation of Chapman and Lonsdale Parks caused. We have to stop demanding apologies and stop bickering. We need to focus on moving forward. We need to be almost inhumanly reasonable and peaceful. We need to occupy a spiritual park where parents feel that their children and elderly parents are safe when they join us. We need to rely on and include the police in order to accomplish this. When we march and publicly assemble, we should lovingly demand that the police see to our safety. We should approach them as friends because we need them to accomplish what seems to be an almost impossible goal—changing a world motivated by greed into a world motivated by love and tolerance.

  29. mzchief on November 16, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Dave on November 15th, 2011 at 8:41 pm wrote:

    “My guess is that if you keep marching and stay on pathways, you’ll not get beat-downs from the cops and they’ll even try to keep you and us both safe while you peacefully assemble to do it.”

    Your unsubtle endorsement of authoritarianism lets us all know that you are still living in the delusion of your specialness in the eyes of the 1%. It’s my hope you re-read the First Amendment and rethink your position before there’s no one else between you and the next cattle car to Chełmno.

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