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	<title>Comments on: An open letter from Mayor Sam Adams to the Occupy Portland encampment</title>
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		<title>By: Hello!</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>Hello!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You post has just made me aware of a number of incidents of concern: 

&quot;the hammer attack, some shaming about the toilets and trash dumpster, this thing today about bicycle shop thefts, the pimp in one of the tents, the article claiming some people threatened the Pizza Schmizza clerk for running out of crazy bread.&quot;

Mayor Adams need not bother with airing dirty laundry, because you have that job covered, Ogre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You post has just made me aware of a number of incidents of concern: </p>
<p>&#8220;the hammer attack, some shaming about the toilets and trash dumpster, this thing today about bicycle shop thefts, the pimp in one of the tents, the article claiming some people threatened the Pizza Schmizza clerk for running out of crazy bread.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mayor Adams need not bother with airing dirty laundry, because you have that job covered, Ogre.</p>
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		<title>By: satori</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>satori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant! As stated previously, Sam is a free agent now, a dedicated public servant who is committed to PDX. He knows how things work and he knows what&#039;s broken. This man can help,in fact he is helping, don&#039;t waste the opportunity.
The city of PDX can be an example/microcosm of fixing what&#039;s broken. 1. benefits for employers with profit sharing programs for ALL employees AND free-lance/contracted and FTE.
2. benefits for employers with medical and dental plans 3. benefits for employers who are green 3. start a national convention in PDX! 4. promotion and benefits for community banks and credit unions 5. more housing and services for homeless and jobless 6. local WPA type jobs program funded by bonds/taxes of households w incomes of 555K or higher 7. foreclosure relief funded by bonds/taxes of households w/incomes of 555k or higher. 

Let&#039;s show the USA how it&#039;s done!

Blessings and Enlightenment]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant! As stated previously, Sam is a free agent now, a dedicated public servant who is committed to PDX. He knows how things work and he knows what&#8217;s broken. This man can help,in fact he is helping, don&#8217;t waste the opportunity.<br />
The city of PDX can be an example/microcosm of fixing what&#8217;s broken. 1. benefits for employers with profit sharing programs for ALL employees AND free-lance/contracted and FTE.<br />
2. benefits for employers with medical and dental plans 3. benefits for employers who are green 3. start a national convention in PDX! 4. promotion and benefits for community banks and credit unions 5. more housing and services for homeless and jobless 6. local WPA type jobs program funded by bonds/taxes of households w incomes of 555K or higher 7. foreclosure relief funded by bonds/taxes of households w/incomes of 555k or higher. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s show the USA how it&#8217;s done!</p>
<p>Blessings and Enlightenment</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa @PDXsays Boze</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa @PDXsays Boze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sam and Fellow Occupiers (be that Virtual or on the ground),

When Sam says that in his opinion as Mayor of Portland that the City is OK with the #OP where it is, and that their position is based on &quot;discretion,&quot; has any of you *ever* asked, &quot;Sam, what do you mean by &#039;discretion&#039;&quot;?

Anyone? 

What if it means, &quot;I want what you want. Things suck. Let&#039;s change. I know you folks at OP have potential to do that in a nonviolent and effective way. I have to make decisions. I can only work with this half-broken toy they call a Democratic government, and a Commission-based one at that. 

What I am saying by the word discretion is that  have to make decisions based on the best case to keep this City vital and growing.  I need your help to move this antiquated behemoth towards something resembling reality. Make the case for me, and I can make anything stick to that Commission-based form of government wall. I am not running again. I am free to do right by the City and these ideals we both agree on, by the rules I chose to live with - just as you chose yours.  

Make the case OP. Bring it to me. The reasons I need that are ones you can support with the resources at your finger tips. 

Build the bridge of facts and actions based on the decisions and rules from the City itself out of the policy and laws,  the Council previous decisions, et al * ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE* at portlandonline.com as part of the open government &#124; open data efforts that were hard won in the last four years.

Make us the City say yes to what we already said we say yes to. 

If the Council said this or that, and the Portland Plan or other accepted finding that say this or that, bring that to me.  Heck, I can even use national policy as preempting, as this is a national movement. How many time do I need to implement that for you guys to see it?

Base the case, people. I am looking for every  opportunity to make the change while I still sit in this cold-hearted hot seat. I need you to help me effect from here. 

And Sam, did it ever occur to  you that 1) the OP liaise to your office do not understand in plain English what processes they can leverage?  2) that a mutual education on processes between groups needs to occur? A fast, down on the ground real one. Because we don’t have time for a scientific, Council endorsed study. 

Amanda Fritz came down  to Schrunk Plaza a couple weeks ago with the best of motivation, but unadvised of intentions. She  tried to compare the Movement to her foot-loose youth period. Everything but the &quot;walked 10 miles to school&quot; chestnut. It was centered on her and what she had to do as a Commissioner as she thought it would relate to youth in the OP. She was not there to discover and explore common ground, to find out anything about these curious furry mammals that were taking the niche of the fossil fuel dinosaurs. 

As a result,  her message came of as ,&quot; Leave, and go get volunteer jobs in established NGO&#039;s.&quot;

Sam, you championed or moved obstacles for the Portland Plan process, the technology business development strategy, the revising of the PPB, open government and open access &#124; source, plentiful and cheap broadband, a sustainable and localized Community model, and so many other things aligned with the call for change worldwide. Help us understand how to help you get help us get through.
 

These things are true for All: Nothing wants to suffer. Everyone wants only to be happy. Everything wants to be connected. No exceptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam and Fellow Occupiers (be that Virtual or on the ground),</p>
<p>When Sam says that in his opinion as Mayor of Portland that the City is OK with the #OP where it is, and that their position is based on &#8220;discretion,&#8221; has any of you *ever* asked, &#8220;Sam, what do you mean by &#8216;discretion&#8217;&#8221;?</p>
<p>Anyone? </p>
<p>What if it means, &#8220;I want what you want. Things suck. Let&#8217;s change. I know you folks at OP have potential to do that in a nonviolent and effective way. I have to make decisions. I can only work with this half-broken toy they call a Democratic government, and a Commission-based one at that. </p>
<p>What I am saying by the word discretion is that  have to make decisions based on the best case to keep this City vital and growing.  I need your help to move this antiquated behemoth towards something resembling reality. Make the case for me, and I can make anything stick to that Commission-based form of government wall. I am not running again. I am free to do right by the City and these ideals we both agree on, by the rules I chose to live with &#8211; just as you chose yours.  </p>
<p>Make the case OP. Bring it to me. The reasons I need that are ones you can support with the resources at your finger tips. </p>
<p>Build the bridge of facts and actions based on the decisions and rules from the City itself out of the policy and laws,  the Council previous decisions, et al * ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE* at portlandonline.com as part of the open government | open data efforts that were hard won in the last four years.</p>
<p>Make us the City say yes to what we already said we say yes to. </p>
<p>If the Council said this or that, and the Portland Plan or other accepted finding that say this or that, bring that to me.  Heck, I can even use national policy as preempting, as this is a national movement. How many time do I need to implement that for you guys to see it?</p>
<p>Base the case, people. I am looking for every  opportunity to make the change while I still sit in this cold-hearted hot seat. I need you to help me effect from here. </p>
<p>And Sam, did it ever occur to  you that 1) the OP liaise to your office do not understand in plain English what processes they can leverage?  2) that a mutual education on processes between groups needs to occur? A fast, down on the ground real one. Because we don’t have time for a scientific, Council endorsed study. </p>
<p>Amanda Fritz came down  to Schrunk Plaza a couple weeks ago with the best of motivation, but unadvised of intentions. She  tried to compare the Movement to her foot-loose youth period. Everything but the &#8220;walked 10 miles to school&#8221; chestnut. It was centered on her and what she had to do as a Commissioner as she thought it would relate to youth in the OP. She was not there to discover and explore common ground, to find out anything about these curious furry mammals that were taking the niche of the fossil fuel dinosaurs. </p>
<p>As a result,  her message came of as ,&#8221; Leave, and go get volunteer jobs in established NGO&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sam, you championed or moved obstacles for the Portland Plan process, the technology business development strategy, the revising of the PPB, open government and open access | source, plentiful and cheap broadband, a sustainable and localized Community model, and so many other things aligned with the call for change worldwide. Help us understand how to help you get help us get through.</p>
<p>These things are true for All: Nothing wants to suffer. Everyone wants only to be happy. Everything wants to be connected. No exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not true.  The only reason the mayor allowed the occupation to continue is because we had massive public support.  10,000 people showed up to the opening march, one of the largest turnouts in Portland history.

The Mayor has been repeatedly hostile to the occupation, first creating artificial deadlines for Main Street at the behest of Standard Insurance, and using force to clear it rather than respecting the GA process.  He has also refused to allow the occupation to expand, which would be a clear solution to some of the problems the camp faces, ordering the arrests of people at Jamison Square and Terry Schrunk.  He has repeated police lies about the march last Wednesday, and is trying to promote fear mongering in order to alienate the occupation so he can shut it down.  He is no friend of Occupy Portland.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true.  The only reason the mayor allowed the occupation to continue is because we had massive public support.  10,000 people showed up to the opening march, one of the largest turnouts in Portland history.</p>
<p>The Mayor has been repeatedly hostile to the occupation, first creating artificial deadlines for Main Street at the behest of Standard Insurance, and using force to clear it rather than respecting the GA process.  He has also refused to allow the occupation to expand, which would be a clear solution to some of the problems the camp faces, ordering the arrests of people at Jamison Square and Terry Schrunk.  He has repeated police lies about the march last Wednesday, and is trying to promote fear mongering in order to alienate the occupation so he can shut it down.  He is no friend of Occupy Portland.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*whether*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*whether*</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for printing Sara Robinson&#039;s piece.  Yes, OP.....set clear boundaries to match your clear goals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for printing Sara Robinson&#8217;s piece.  Yes, OP&#8230;..set clear boundaries to match your clear goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes - Sam adams is a clever enough politicians. I don&#039;t want to call him machiavellian, but I suspect that the police chief and the mayor have been influencing the TV stations and the Oregonian to publish stories about a series of embarrassing crimes or incidents near the camps this week. - this would include the guy arrested for the hammer attack, some shaming about the toilets and trash dumpster, this thing today about bicycle shop thefts, the pimp in one of the tents, the article claiming some people threatened the Pizza Schmizza clerk for running out of crazy bread. It is very psychologically effective at making someone embarrassed to admit that they are involved with Occupy Portland, and I bet Sam Adams could tactically be involved in the media war by forwarding police press releases to the media... and soon enough the activists will give up, leave the park, and do something more useful such as seizing abandoned foreclosed houses for the homeless or something.   It is also a very easy tactic for Adams to take]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes &#8211; Sam adams is a clever enough politicians. I don&#8217;t want to call him machiavellian, but I suspect that the police chief and the mayor have been influencing the TV stations and the Oregonian to publish stories about a series of embarrassing crimes or incidents near the camps this week. &#8211; this would include the guy arrested for the hammer attack, some shaming about the toilets and trash dumpster, this thing today about bicycle shop thefts, the pimp in one of the tents, the article claiming some people threatened the Pizza Schmizza clerk for running out of crazy bread. It is very psychologically effective at making someone embarrassed to admit that they are involved with Occupy Portland, and I bet Sam Adams could tactically be involved in the media war by forwarding police press releases to the media&#8230; and soon enough the activists will give up, leave the park, and do something more useful such as seizing abandoned foreclosed houses for the homeless or something.   It is also a very easy tactic for Adams to take</p>
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		<title>By: taiganaut</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>taiganaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a URL to that HIGHLY RECOMMENDED post entitled &quot;Occupy&#039;s Asshole Problem: Flashbacks From An Old Hippie&quot;

http://radioornot.com/site/?p=5181Should

This is really essential reading.  I know it was posted below, but I wanted to drop the URL so people can share easily.

By the way, to some of the more militant responders below, using inflammatory language in response to this open letter is a 100% useless response.  The mayor is pointing out problems which need to be rapidly addressed -- and core volunteers and GA are working on it, quite likely without your help at present or you wouldn&#039;t be posting such dreck.  Tone down the rhetoric and try to help out with problems that do need to be addressed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a URL to that HIGHLY RECOMMENDED post entitled &#8220;Occupy&#8217;s Asshole Problem: Flashbacks From An Old Hippie&#8221;</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://radioornot.com/site/?p=5181Should"  rel="nofollow">http://radioornot.com/site/?p=5181Should</a></p>
<p>This is really essential reading.  I know it was posted below, but I wanted to drop the URL so people can share easily.</p>
<p>By the way, to some of the more militant responders below, using inflammatory language in response to this open letter is a 100% useless response.  The mayor is pointing out problems which need to be rapidly addressed &#8212; and core volunteers and GA are working on it, quite likely without your help at present or you wouldn&#8217;t be posting such dreck.  Tone down the rhetoric and try to help out with problems that do need to be addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Wysskers</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1284</link>
		<dc:creator>Wysskers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, I just wanted to provide a link to the article that&#039;s quoted above.  Maybe save a few people some search time looking for it :)

http://occupyamerica.crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/occupys--Ahole-problem-flashbacks-old]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I just wanted to provide a link to the article that&#8217;s quoted above.  Maybe save a few people some search time looking for it <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://occupyamerica.crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/occupys--Ahole-problem-flashbacks-old"  rel="nofollow">http://occupyamerica.crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/occupys&#8211;Ahole-problem-flashbacks-old</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/07/open-letter-mayor-sam-adams-occupy-portland-encampment/#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not a native oregonian, or even a north-westerner, but one thing i have noticed is that Mr. Adams is probably one of the best mayors i have ever seen in the nation. He actually allowed OPDX to happen and most would have shut you down in less than 48 hrs. Now all you people are doing is talking a bunch of crap about him when he is trying to find peaceful ways to help. So let us work together and make this work we can do and we need all the help we can get. The drugs, prostitution and all that jazz needs to be nipped in the butt, I myself thank you Mayor Adams and am willing to help you out as much as it is needed to get rid of the riff raff and problems we are having there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a native oregonian, or even a north-westerner, but one thing i have noticed is that Mr. Adams is probably one of the best mayors i have ever seen in the nation. He actually allowed OPDX to happen and most would have shut you down in less than 48 hrs. Now all you people are doing is talking a bunch of crap about him when he is trying to find peaceful ways to help. So let us work together and make this work we can do and we need all the help we can get. The drugs, prostitution and all that jazz needs to be nipped in the butt, I myself thank you Mayor Adams and am willing to help you out as much as it is needed to get rid of the riff raff and problems we are having there.</p>
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