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	<title>Comments on: Statement of Condemnation Against Violence</title>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1164</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This commitment to being &#039;non-violent&#039;, condemning those who hold different views on the situation and cooperating with the police is playing into the hands of the ruling class. The social order is upheld with violence. Police forces have violently repressed &#039;non-violent&#039; Occupy Protesters across the US without provocation. They have literally stamped out Occupations because the protesters refused to put up any kind of resistance. The reason Occupy Oakland has had some great successes is because they decided to resist the violence and capital that continues to try to defeat them. Non-violent protesters are easy for cops to beat up and arrest because they won&#039;t fight back. However it&#039;s harder to arrest protesters are open to different tactics. 

The current social order is protected with violence by our government and the police agencies. Their sole role is that of being the protectors of the wealth, interests and laws of the ruling class. To sellout out a fellow worker who is protesting their situation is to do the work of the police and of the 1%. 

Also, it seems to me that it is quite hypocritical to preach &#039;non-violence&#039; and yet use violence to subdue those expressing their frustration by destroying property of the rich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This commitment to being &#8216;non-violent&#8217;, condemning those who hold different views on the situation and cooperating with the police is playing into the hands of the ruling class. The social order is upheld with violence. Police forces have violently repressed &#8216;non-violent&#8217; Occupy Protesters across the US without provocation. They have literally stamped out Occupations because the protesters refused to put up any kind of resistance. The reason Occupy Oakland has had some great successes is because they decided to resist the violence and capital that continues to try to defeat them. Non-violent protesters are easy for cops to beat up and arrest because they won&#8217;t fight back. However it&#8217;s harder to arrest protesters are open to different tactics. </p>
<p>The current social order is protected with violence by our government and the police agencies. Their sole role is that of being the protectors of the wealth, interests and laws of the ruling class. To sellout out a fellow worker who is protesting their situation is to do the work of the police and of the 1%. </p>
<p>Also, it seems to me that it is quite hypocritical to preach &#8216;non-violence&#8217; and yet use violence to subdue those expressing their frustration by destroying property of the rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a breakdown of their message: A threat, followed by &quot;we&#039;re on your side too,&quot; followed by a denunciation and a call to demobilize (implicit is the cops&#039; vast arsenal or crowd control and a blood lust for attacking leftists). Hey pigs, we have a response for you. Try and evict us and you&#039;ll figure it out the hard way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a breakdown of their message: A threat, followed by &#8220;we&#8217;re on your side too,&#8221; followed by a denunciation and a call to demobilize (implicit is the cops&#8217; vast arsenal or crowd control and a blood lust for attacking leftists). Hey pigs, we have a response for you. Try and evict us and you&#8217;ll figure it out the hard way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hopefully you got your ass handed to you Daniel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully you got your ass handed to you Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1161</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey red, thanks for the info. I will treat &quot;peace-police&quot; as collaborators when they try to attack us, because they will show themselves as just as much of an enemy to our movement as the police themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey red, thanks for the info. I will treat &#8220;peace-police&#8221; as collaborators when they try to attack us, because they will show themselves as just as much of an enemy to our movement as the police themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shame on you all for publishing this statement. I wish I had been down there to block it. If this was a political act then we need to support him as a political prisoner, just like those kids who were busted spray-painting &quot;Occupy Portland.&quot; With the State, the Rich, and their lap dog pigs against us we need to stand united. To most working people the pigs are not Officer Friendly (middle-class hogwash), they&#039;re the people who harass, intimidate, extort, and beat us up with impunity. Nonviolence is only effective when it lets us expose the brutality of the state. We must remain militant (i.e. aggressive, or &quot;proactive&quot; in middle class parlance)if we truly want to win against hierarchical relationships.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you all for publishing this statement. I wish I had been down there to block it. If this was a political act then we need to support him as a political prisoner, just like those kids who were busted spray-painting &#8220;Occupy Portland.&#8221; With the State, the Rich, and their lap dog pigs against us we need to stand united. To most working people the pigs are not Officer Friendly (middle-class hogwash), they&#8217;re the people who harass, intimidate, extort, and beat us up with impunity. Nonviolence is only effective when it lets us expose the brutality of the state. We must remain militant (i.e. aggressive, or &#8220;proactive&#8221; in middle class parlance)if we truly want to win against hierarchical relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 05:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like the pig isn&#039;t the only one getting pushed under a bus. How about some solidarity with someone who was at worst defending themselves from the 1 percentiles paid thugs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the pig isn&#8217;t the only one getting pushed under a bus. How about some solidarity with someone who was at worst defending themselves from the 1 percentiles paid thugs?</p>
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		<title>By: We are the 1% &#171; GREY COAST ANARCHIST NEWS</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator>We are the 1% &#171; GREY COAST ANARCHIST NEWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] only one being tossed under a bus: he was identified in a &#8220;Statement of Condemnation&#8221;( https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/) as an &#8216;outsider&#8217; with a &#8216;criminal past&#8217; and thusly stands to be one of the [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only one being tossed under a bus: he was identified in a &#8220;Statement of Condemnation&#8221;( https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/) as an &#8216;outsider&#8217; with a &#8216;criminal past&#8217; and thusly stands to be one of the [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Reid Parham</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid Parham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG—]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG—</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I consider myself a participant and a supporter of the Occupy movement.  I also find myself in agreement with the above statement of the Portland Police Officers&#039; union.  I will say further that criminals at the Occupy Portland site, of whom I have seen plenty, are threats to this movement and a distraction from the real criminals at the top of the economic pyramid.  You who chant &quot;Fuck the Police!&quot; and similar nonsense do not speak for me nor for those closest to me.  In fact, if I saw someone make an unprovoked attack a Police Officer, or anyone else, and I hope I would do my best as a citizen to arrest the assailant, with whatever force was required.  I am comfortable with the use of physical force to stop violence, and I support the wise embrace of nonviolent tactics to broaden and deepen this movement for fundamental change in our society. Anti-social behavior does nothing to contribute to any sort of world I want.  I must say personally that I respect the actions and restraint I have seen among Portland Police Officers, just as I am proud of most of the behavior and courage of Occupiers and unOccupiers here and all over the world.  The worst behavior by factors of many thousands comes from the real criminals with the greatest power in society, but in our little two blocks of the world, I feel overwhelmed by the disgusting behavior of more than a few of those who inhabit the Portland Occupation.  They can expect the opposite of support from me and mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself a participant and a supporter of the Occupy movement.  I also find myself in agreement with the above statement of the Portland Police Officers&#8217; union.  I will say further that criminals at the Occupy Portland site, of whom I have seen plenty, are threats to this movement and a distraction from the real criminals at the top of the economic pyramid.  You who chant &#8220;Fuck the Police!&#8221; and similar nonsense do not speak for me nor for those closest to me.  In fact, if I saw someone make an unprovoked attack a Police Officer, or anyone else, and I hope I would do my best as a citizen to arrest the assailant, with whatever force was required.  I am comfortable with the use of physical force to stop violence, and I support the wise embrace of nonviolent tactics to broaden and deepen this movement for fundamental change in our society. Anti-social behavior does nothing to contribute to any sort of world I want.  I must say personally that I respect the actions and restraint I have seen among Portland Police Officers, just as I am proud of most of the behavior and courage of Occupiers and unOccupiers here and all over the world.  The worst behavior by factors of many thousands comes from the real criminals with the greatest power in society, but in our little two blocks of the world, I feel overwhelmed by the disgusting behavior of more than a few of those who inhabit the Portland Occupation.  They can expect the opposite of support from me and mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Witness</title>
		<link>https://occupyportland.org/2011/11/03/statement-condemnation/#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>Witness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All eye-witnesses to this event, please call the NLG
hotline at 503-902-5340.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All eye-witnesses to this event, please call the NLG<br />
hotline at 503-902-5340.</p>
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